V.S. Yaganov reports how in Soviet times fish had to be delivered to state farms, which he himself had to deliver to Tigil'. S.A. Popov confirms that in the Soviet times the individual fishing was controlled by state authorities, but people knew how to avoid it. Now there are poachers with their fast Zodiac motorboats, and they fish mainly the female fish, which are lucrative for the caviar trade, so that the reproduction of certain fish species is affected. Also V.K. Belousova complains that many today often just cut the roe out of the fish, after which it is thrown away unused. This was strictly forbidden in the past, she says, because people were convinced that fish would then not show up again. She is concerned about the future of fish stocks and complains that many people use the sale of caviar to finance their alcoholism. In the past, mainly female fish were released so that they could reproduce – so that there would be enough fish in the future. S.A. Popov explains how difficult it is today for a fish warden to stop poaching. Even if poachers were convicted and punished, they would immediately reappear as soon as the fish warden was gone. After taking the roe, they just throw the fish away with the result that it stinks awfully at many places. S.T. Urkachan is upset that fish trawlers catch far too many fish in the estuaries at sea and are also mainly interested in the caviar trade. A.T. Urkachan is also concerned that too many fish are caught nowadays. She mentions the importance of the seasonal reconciliation feasts with nature (Ololo), which remind people not to take more from nature than is necessary. This is the only way to preserve the fishing places so that the villages and their inhabitants can continue to exist.